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  An observation

  by yard dog in

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  i'm in the process of reading "crisis of conscience" for the second time trying to gather up any missed points from the first reading and came across this observation.

  of all the governing body members mentioned i don't think there was one that wasn't "white".

  this strikes me as odd.

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  yard dog

  I'm in the process of reading "Crisis of Conscience" for the second time trying to gather up any missed points from the first reading and came across this observation. Of all the governing body members mentioned I don't think there was one that wasn't "white". This strikes me as odd. I would think that God would want his modern day mouthpiece to be as diverse ethnically and culturely as the people that they represent. From all the names mentioned and their backgrounds there was not one asian,spanish,latino,african,indian and so on listed as a member of the GB. Just a bunch of old white dudes. If I'm wrong please let me know and does this seem odd to anyone else. I thought God was colorblind but he picked all white dudes to lead everyone. Hmmmmm! Somethings not right here.
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  Selling Cars?

  by Nickey in

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  so now the wt is selling cars?.

  not only that, but you buy these cars for the co's?

  let me get this straight, i buy a car but it's not for me?

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  Utopian---------I love Rush! 2112 is in my top ten of all time favorite albums. A few observations. KEYCHAINS! The Society is now giving out keychains. I've been disfellowshipped for 17 years and am out of the loop as to what the organization does and says now except for the tidbits my loyal mother gives me when she tries to get me to return. How low can you go? Keychains. Quite sad really. As far as the vehicles being provided to the CO's I ask myself one question. Would Jesus drive a Buick with leather,CD ect.?Did Paul ride the countryside on the finest stallions provided by the congregation?Would he then sell the horse for profit?Man,the more I learn the more I wonder how people can be see so blind,myself included.
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  Satan Claus

  by SwedishChef in

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  santa claus takes the place of god in the holidays.

  similarities between santa and god:.

  quality of santa claus #1:.

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  Flower, If I understand you correctly,you don't believe in God. What do you think is the alternative answer to our existence.Evolution?Just curious.
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  Not the study article, but.......

  by ozziepost in

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  2. bible

  a long-held teaching of the wts is that god allowed time after the fall of adam and eve to demonstrate to all creation the rightness of his rule.

  this is again repeated in a current issue of the watchtower:

  why did god not immediately destroy the first human couple along with satan, the invisible instigator of their rebellion?

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  I find your perspective very interesting. Since I was practically raised as a JW that is one of the doctorines I assumed to be true without giving it much thought. I don't think the whole issue is about God's authority as much as his descision to allow us to make our own bed and sleep in it. If the bible is true he gave Adam and Eve everything. They were given a Garden(fine home) to live in, the best grapes(fine wine),the best food, perfect weather(can you say Jamaica),told to fill the Earth(have sex all the time) and so on. God didn't ask them to slobber all over themselves praising him. He told them not to eat from one damn tree. ONE TREE! Eat from the tree and you will die. The choice was theirs. If God didn't follow through he would have been a liar. I don't think it's about authority but truth. A true God will do what he says he will do but a false God (Satan and his "You will not positively die" statement)will not.
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  Judas Iscariot

  by nativenyr23 in

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  was watching a deal on tv last night (discovery channel, history channel, can't remember)....and it reminded me of something i've always thought about.. was judas really a bad guy?

  should he be condemned for doing something that had to be done?

  i mean, after all, had he not "betrayed his master".....then jesus wouldn't have died, right?

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  It was mostly the Jews who knew Jesus. When Judas kissed him for identification reasons it was for Roman soldiers Who I would guess had little knowledge of Jesus. A question though. Could it be possible that both Pilate and Judas will have a hope for resurrection? I always was taught that the only unforgivable sin was blasphemy of the Holy Spirit or working against Gods will and knowing that was what you were doing. Pilate and Judas did what had to be done(Gods will) for prophecy to be fulfilled. Didn't Jesus sacrifice cover them too? Any thoughts or ideas? yard dog
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  were you forced to give up your fleshly family

  by nightwarrior in

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  please take note.. when i first started studying with jehovahs witnesses ,over a period they lead you to beleive that your family are serving satan ,therfore hidden pressure is put upon you to ditch your family ,if your weak you will do as you are told but as allways they make you think your doing it for god,its so they can start to control you slowly ,your familys gone your old friends are gone you have nothing else be warned then comes the reliance upon every single word the elders say to you hypnotismn comes allso through the literature ,.

  i kept my family at a distance i never allowed man to dictate ,pluss i had no opposition from my family in times of need i was there to support my greater family and now i still have them if needed why make yourself miserable.. thank god i never bowed to the presure of relinquishing my family ties

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  I was born into the Catholic religion but my mother converted to Jehovah's Witnesses when i was about 6. I can remember it being all out war as my mother attemted to convert her brother as well(she was successful). Within a short period of time my mother had alienated her longtime boyfriend,all friends and family and adopted the KH as her new home. She remarried not long after coming into the "truth" and waalaa a brand new life. I've been disfellowshipped for 17 years now and I have seen my mom once in the last 5 years. All I can say is that I could never do to my children what my mother has done to me. Don't get me wrong, I love my mom beyond what words can describe but I struggle daily with this. Its always there and it takes work for me not to let hate take over. Maybe someday love will win out-I don't know.
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  everone is in confusion

  by zolensky in

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  i joined this site last week hoping to meet people that would steer me back to the organization.

  instead the people i have talked to her are all trying to tell me too see the light and get out of the organization.

  in my opinion, not that it matters, i really think that if a person had the truth deeply ingrained in them, they would never leave the truth.

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  Zolensky, If you truly believe my friend that the WTS is the "truth" and that your future depends upon your allegiance to them then that is where you need to be . Please look in the mirror and act upon your "true" beliefs instead of hypocritically worrying about what others are doing. I wish you luck and hope you find the "strength" to do what you feel is right but lay off us.
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  Poll:

  by Monster in

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  how many of you hold to some of the beliefs jws taught, and what are they?

  peace james

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  What up James! I've scrapped their whole belief system and started over from scratch. Of course it took me 17 years to decide to do that. They may be right on some doctrinal points but I'm going to allow personal study and an open mind to lead me there and not a Watchtower magazine. I believe in God and at this stage am working on the relationship between him and his Son. Where that will take I don't know. Peace.
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  Who I Am

  by yard dog in

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  2. experiences

  i would like to start out by saying how glad i am to find a forum to discuss issues in my life very few people understand.

  i hope to learn a few things and possibly make some new friends along the way.

  i'm 34 years old and have been disfellowshipped for 17 years.

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  I would like to thank everyone for the warm welcome. That's definitely not something I recieved over the years in my few visits I've made to the Kingdom Hall since my disfellowshipping. I would also like to thank you for your insight regarding rightousness versus love. The rightousness frame of mind is still ingrained in me even after all these years. I never really thought about it until just now and I suppose that line of thinking eventually leads to self rightousness, something that has always seemed to permeate through the Society. I truly don't have much of a problem loving my wife and children. They are everything to me. My problem seems to be loving other people. I keep a relatively good distance from anyone outside my immediate family and don't want things to be that way. When I was became disfellowshipped it was like I died. Even though it was what I wanted it came with great sacrifice in regards to family and my closest lifelong friends. In some way im trying to avoid that again by keeping people at an arms length. Any thoughts or suggestions would be welcome. Thanks . Yard Dog
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  Who I Am

  by yard dog in

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  i would like to start out by saying how glad i am to find a forum to discuss issues in my life very few people understand.

  i hope to learn a few things and possibly make some new friends along the way.

  i'm 34 years old and have been disfellowshipped for 17 years.

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  I would like to start out by saying how glad I am to find a forum to discuss issues in my life very few people understand. I hope to learn a few things and possibly make some new friends along the way. I'm 34 years old and have been disfellowshipped for 17 years. My mother became a JW when I was about 6 years old and married a fellow JW when I was 8. I would say on a level of 1 to 10 they were a 7 or 8 on the tow the line meter. We never missed meetings,were fairly regular in field service and prepared for most meetings as instructed. Our haircuts were above the ear and dress was closely monitored for any individualism. No sports or extra curricular activities at school and no worldly associations. I was giving talks in the Theocratic Ministry School at 7 and was being groomed to be a pioneer or elder later in life. At 12 I auxiliary pioneered and at 15 had visited and toured Bethel. I certainly could keep going but you get the picture. At 16 the wheels started coming off of my parents skillfully crafted plan. Call it rebellion,puberty or the search for my own identity I decided being a JW wasn't for me. It took some time for my parents to catch on because I tried to live 2 lives but at 17 my mom caught me smoking and took me to the elders. At my judicial meeting I hid nothing and flat out told the elders where to stick it. From there I did it all. Women,drugs,drinking, and rock n roll. I became the poster child for what happens to those that leave Jehovahs organization. I figured armageddon was going to kill me soon so I didn't have much to lose. Well age and maturity have changed me considerably. Today I have been happily married for 7 years and have 3 beautiful children ages 5,2 and 1. Over the last 3 or 4 years I have begun to seriously study religion again because deep down I love rightousness and believe God wants what best for us. Through personal study I come to see that JW's as an organization have at best misinterpreted the Bible and at worst have outright decieved people. For years after my disfellowshipping I defended the organization as truth because it was all i knew but I've since found out there are flaws that can't be ignored. My only regret and the issue that haunts me the most is the lost relationship with my Mother. My step-dad and her are still highly loyal members and are always holding out hope for my return to the flock. My brother recently got married to a sister in his congregation and given my circumstances could not invite me. They barely know their grandchildren and make no real effort to even try despite my numerous attempts to encourage them to be more involved without me being around. It breaks my heart to see my children punished for my crimes and wonder how people who are to supposed to love God so much yet be so cold towards innocent children or their own son for that matter. Anyway, that's the skinny on my story. I could go on and on in much greater detail for days but this will do for now. I hope to have discussions with some of you in the future on both a personal level as well as a scriptural level as my true goal is to find some truths i can hold on to and make my own.